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sleeper54 Posted: Aug 27 '08,  3:50 pm           
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RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: almarsezstuff
Additionally, a Member Center post just went up detailing some of the features of the WYSIWYG editor. Hopefully that helps a bit.

-Almar


Member Center...

(yeah, I know: it is easy to find. But maybe one or two do not. Might as well make it easy for everyone at the same time...)


the message says...
"HTML will no longer be allowed in the title of your review from this point forward."

This is the last straw.

I quit.



...tom...

P.S. Seriously: that is a major bummer for me ...and I am sure for many others. The engineers got an explanation..?? Seems it would be easy to make it work there also...
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popsrocks Posted: Aug 27 '08,  3:56 pm (Updated: Aug 27 '08,  3:59 pm)           
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RE: OK help out ol' pops

[quote="sleeper54]
P.S. Seriously: that is a major bummer for me ...and I am sure for many others. The engineers got an explanation..?? Seems it would be easy to make it work there also...
.[/quote]

It's a minor simmer for me but I would miss it...


Back to my review. I just noticed that the review I'm working is now back in draft where it should be as I'm trying to figure what's wrong. When I look at it on my profile page there is double spacing between pro and con.

wasup?

pops

looks like I broke the "Quote" feature too!. That one I do have a handle on.

   
pablothegreat Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:08 pm           
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RE: OK help out ol' pops

Can this new fangled adaptation be rolled back until after the 1st? It is a nuisance to ones of us wanting to submit the last reviews of the month with only a couple of days to do it in.

With my internet connection off and on lately coupled with this, I am ready to throw my hands up!

   
scmrak Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:14 pm           
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RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: sleeper54
the message says...
"HTML will no longer be allowed in the title of your review from this point forward."

This is the last straw.

I quit.



...tom...

P.S. Seriously: that is a major bummer for me ...and I am sure for many others. The engineers got an explanation..?? Seems it would be easy to make it work there also...
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Quote: scmrak
That's a permanent change. The html code shows up in search-engine listings (My Title Has <I>Italics</I>), and that's presumed to be off-putting to people reading the search results. If it confuses someone who doesn't understand HTML, they might just ignore it. I asked them to also outlaw tildes, but they just laughed at me...

   
jps246 Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:15 pm           
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RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: sleeper54
P.S. Seriously: that is a major bummer for me ...and I am sure for many others. The engineers got an explanation..?? Seems it would be easy to make it work there also...

I'd think that it's probably like Rex said...

Quote: scmrak
That's a permanent change. The html code shows up in search-engine listings (My Title Has Italics), and that's presumed to be off-putting to people reading the search results. If it confuses someone who doesn't understand HTML, they might just ignore it. I asked them to also outlaw tildes, but they just laughed at me...

My guess is that having the code within the title probably doesn't optimize the page for search engine review and ranking and Eps wants to make sure the pages are as google friendly as possible.

Jeff
   
almarsezstuff Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:17 pm           
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RE: OK help out ol' pops

Thanks, Rex. Here's a live example of why we've removed HTML in the titles:

Example in Google

-Almar

   
jps246 Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:17 pm (Updated: Aug 27 '08,  4:20 pm)           
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progress

Quote: pablothegreat
Can this new fangled adaptation be rolled back until after the 1st? It is a nuisance to ones of us wanting to submit the last reviews of the month with only a couple of days to do it in.

With my internet connection off and on lately coupled with this, I am ready to throw my hands up!

A wysiwyg text editor really isn't anything new on the web. If anything, Eps is probably one of the last websites to upgrade to such functionality. Just a few months ago people were complaining about how arcane our editor was and how they wanted spell checking and other features. Well, you have to make some sacrifices in anything and I'm sure over time the new editor will become second nature when working on reviews.

Jeff
   
carstairs38 Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:22 pm           
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RE: progress

Quote: jps246
A wysiwyg text editor really isn't anything new on the web. If anything, Eps is probably one of the last websites to upgrade to such functionality.

Jeff


Actually, The River still doesn't allow bolding, italics, or anything like that in the review or the review title. You can do some links, but I've never tried to see how that works. And they don't have any kind of spell checker anywhere in the process.

Just thought you'd appreciate the fact that we are, and have been, ahead of at least one other site.

Mark
   
jps246 Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:24 pm           
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RE: progress

Quote: carstairs38
Just thought you'd appreciate the fact that we are, and have been, ahead of at least one other site.

lol - you've got me there.
   
pablothegreat Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:25 pm           
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RE: progress

Yes but this one has a bug in it or something. I like it if it worked correctly but now it is saying I have an opening b without a closing b which isn't true. I had to take out all html to submit at all.

Also there are no options to use our own html to skip this bug and let us submit without using it.

Don't mean to be complaining but it isn't working correctly so we can submit reviews. Or I could without any html I guess! Quitting for a while and hoping it works next time I try it.

Quote: jps246
A wysiwyg text editor really isn't anything new on the web. If anything, Eps is probably one of the last websites to upgrade to such functionality. Just a few months ago people were complaining about how arcane our editor was and how they wanted spell checking and other features. Well, you have to make some sacrifices in anything and I'm sure over time the new editor will become second nature when working on reviews.

Jeff

   
yoelc Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:25 pm (Updated: Aug 27 '08,  4:38 pm)           
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Post: 199565
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: pilarzmom
But why were some of us getting error messages (you have a < b > without a < /b >, for example) when we were using the WYSIWYG editor?????????????



Are you pasting your review from a program when this happens?

EDITED:
You will get this message if you are nesting tags, like this:
test
test






Thanks,
Yoel
Epinions Product Manager
   
pablothegreat Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:27 pm           
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RE: OK help out ol' pops

I am, wordpad as I always have. I took out my html and used the html provided but it still said opening b and no closing b.I could not submit until taking out all html in the review.

Quote: yoelc
Are you pasting your review from a program when this happens?

Thanks,
Yoel
Epinions Product Manager

   
sleeper54 Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:28 pm (Updated: Aug 27 '08,  4:31 pm)           
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Post: 199567
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: almarsezstuff
Thanks, Rex. Here's a live example of why we've removed HTML in the titles:

Example in Google

-Almar

I just wanna know how long it took to find a Google search with an Eps URL and with a title using HTML tags as the first hit..??

Kate got an extra hit from me to check the other HTML content of the review. I noticed the first few words of the review body itself are HTML also. But they are not displayed; while 'The Bottom Line' content is displayed.


Anyway . . .change is good.



...tom...

P.S. OK, OK. I do not quit. To the disappointment of many I am sure . . .. ...:minism:...
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sleeper54 Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:30 pm           
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RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: pablothegreat
I am, wordpad as I always have. I took out my html and used the html provided but it still said opening b and no closing b.I could not submit until taking out all html in the review.

Uhmmm... Try not adding your HTML tags and use the editor on the site after pasting your 'straight text' content..??



...tom...
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gamblin_man Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:31 pm           
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RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: yoelc
Are you pasting your review from a program when this happens?

Thanks,
Yoel
Epinions Product Manager

I used Update on two reviews today. On each I tried to add a link to another review. One worked fine using the HTML Editor. The other gave me an error of unpaired italics. I backed out of it and tried again, just using Update and then Publish, no changes. Got the same error on it. Send email for link since we can't link to reviews on the board.

Larry
   
popsrocks Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:32 pm           
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Post: 199570
Now I've really stepped in it!

I'm havin probs again. First I'll mention that everything I have done is directly on site.

I just went to update an older review. Dang I did nothing but add a few words, no bolds not nuttin.

It won't click through because of some kind of existing HTML prob.

Is this going to happen every time we open an old review of ours? I don't know how to bail myself out of that review now. All I want to do is put it back in action.

wasup?

pops

   
sleeper54 Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:33 pm           
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RE: progress

Quote: carstairs38
Actually, The River still doesn't allow bolding, italics, or anything like that in the review or the review title. You can do some links, but I've never tried to see how that works. And they don't have any kind of spell checker anywhere in the process.

Just thought you'd appreciate the fact that we are, and have been, ahead of at least one other site.

Mark

All right..!! We sure showed them..!!



...tom...
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captaind Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:34 pm           
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RE: OK help out ol' pops

Not sure if you had the same problem, but I found a [br /] bracket between my opening [b] and closing [/b] brackets, and taking that out solved the problem.

Ah well, might help someone!

CaptainD

   
pablothegreat Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:39 pm           
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RE: OK help out ol' pops

I tried that too. It still said the same thing. I deleted all of my html tags, rewrote everything in the new site editor, and it said opening b no closing b. It doesn't like me.

I hate myself for not working longer last night before this happened!

Oh well who needs html. LOL I will just do without html until it gets figured out I guess.


Quote: sleeper54
Uhmmm... Try not adding your HTML tags and use the editor on the site after pasting your 'straight text' content..??



...tom...
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popsrocks Posted: Aug 27 '08,  4:39 pm           
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RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: gamblin_man
I used Update on two reviews today. On each I tried to add a link to another review. One worked fine using the HTML Editor. The other gave me an error of unpaired italics. I backed out of it and tried again, just using Update and then Publish, no changes. Got the same error on it. Send email for link since we can't link to reviews on the board.

Larry


Hey Larry did the review with the HTML prob already have HTML used in it?

That's where my problem seems to be on the update I'm trying to rectify. I used the I in that one when I first posted it last week. No prob then. Prob now.

pops
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