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Re: This was a thorough review! (Reply to this comment)
by bob_tomato
Thanks for reading my review - I appreciate the critical feedback from another fan! I did get the quotes from the liner notes of the Box set - I noted that fact down in the details at the bottom of the review - always list your sources ;)
As for the jam factor of The Police, I couldn't agree more - they were truly masters of improvisation. Sting carried that torch into his solo career, though I thought he abandoned it a bit on the Sacred Love tour.
Andrew
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Feb 23 '05 3:31 am PST
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This was a thorough review! (Reply to this comment)
by kedsand1
Excellent work on this review. I wondered if you got some of your quotes from the Message in a Box "liner notes."
Anyway, I think that most people would cite Synchronicity as The Police's best album (and I really couldn't argue against that), but I find the roughness of Zenyatta Mondatta endearing, with a bit of a "jam" feel to it. In my opinion, The Police is one of the finest jam bands ever, and that's evidenced by their concert performances.
Looking forward to reading more of your reviews!
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Feb 22 '05 1:57 pm PST
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Re: Zenyatta (Reply to this comment)
by bob_tomato
millistinglet wrote:
I hate Doodooodaaadaaawhatever with a white hot fiery passion, though. This is the only song (apart from Synchronicity's appalling and ear-bleeding ode to Andy Summers weirdness that is "Mother") in their catalogue that I actively dislike.
I'll grant you your distaste for De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da - I feel kinda stupid just typing those syllables - but I can go you one better (worse?) than "Mother". The Police's box set includes "A Kind of Loving", which has to be one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard. Recall if you will, what occurs in the opening scene of A Clockwork Orange, and set that to music. It's the only Police song I deliberately left out of my laptop's music library.
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Feb 08 '05 12:30 pm PST
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Zenyatta (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket
is without question my least favorite Police album in total, but I will always love "Canary in a Coalmine". I hate Doodooodaaadaaawhatever with a white hot fiery passion, though. This is the only song (apart from Synchronicity's appalling and ear-bleeding ode to Andy Summers weirdness that is "Mother") in their catalogue that I actively dislike.
This was released just as I was becoming aware of The Police, so that may taint my view - the first thing you hear overplayed (doodoodaaadooo) until it hurts to listen is never the thing you love the best, after all....
Sue
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Feb 06 '05 12:02 pm PST
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Meh... (Reply to this comment)
by speeddemon531, in Music
Perhaps I hold a special place in my heart for "Zenyatta", seeing as it was the first Police album I heard, back when I was a wee Demon, but I still believe it holds up strongly (especially from an instrumental/rhythmic standpoint) better than any other Police album. Maybe not so much "Driven To Tears", but "Best Of What's Still Around" and "Voices Inside My Head" are the most rhythmically intense songs the band has ever done. And, hey, I enjoy songs that make me snap my neck uncontrollably.
Nice stuff--
Mike
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Feb 05 '05 5:03 am PST
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Ground Control to Major Tom... (Reply to this comment)
by bob_tomato
your circuit's dead, there's something wrong...
It makes sense that your view and mine are simply determined by our age gap, because I did experience the advent of each Police album (in America) as it happened. I've always felt this way about Zenyatta and I am surprised that the intervening years haven't changed my mind. I distinctly remember how ecstatic I was the first time I heard Ghost in the Machine, thinking "yes! they're back on course"
now it's time to leave the capsule if you dare...
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Feb 04 '05 6:13 pm PST
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Sitting in my tin can... (Reply to this comment)
by plorentz
Actually, I get the whole gestalt thing with this album, while Regatta only turns me on intermittently.
Then again, I was never a Police fan until long after the fact, so I didn't experience any of these albums (aside from radio airplay) when they were actually released (I have always been, and remain to this day, a much bigger, more devoted fan of Men At Work/Colin Hay).
From my necessarily butt's eye view (hindsight being 20/20), Zenyatta is the whole-est album by the Police. I grant it's probably their least daring record - but it's really the only one I actually make a point of listening to all the way through.
-Paul
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Feb 04 '05 3:24 pm PST
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... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... (Reply to this comment)
by plorentz
Can you hear me, Major Bob?
Can you hear me, Major Bob?
Can you hear me, Major Bob?
Can you hear me, Major Bob?
Can you heeeeeeeeaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr...
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Feb 04 '05 3:19 pm PST
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Malfunction! Malfunction! (Reply to this comment)
by plorentz
Manic Joy Streaming Interrupted! Must... Regain Contact... With... Base...
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Feb 04 '05 3:17 pm PST
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Re: I'll agree (Reply to this comment)
by bob_tomato
with the advent of the computer and the rise of database music applications like Windows Media Player and Real Player, I've found that my music listening habits have changed. In the past, I would have listened to Outlandos or Regatta in their entirety any day of the week rather than all of Zenyatta. But now, I find that my Police playlists often have more songs from Zenyatta than either of the first two albums. I think these songs are more satisfying on their own, but there's something about the whole gestalt of both of the first albums that makes them more listenable as is...weird
Thanks for the comments!
Andrew
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Feb 04 '05 1:29 pm PST
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I'll agree (Reply to this comment)
by panguitch
with your overall premise that the album was rushed, and largely a redux of Regatta. A couple of these songs are, relatively, mediocre. But nothing can take away from the euphoria of De Do Do Do, the freneticism of Canary, or the portent of Driven.
This 'follow-up album' phenomenon is something U2 has fallen prey to. Zooropa after Achtung Baby, Rattle and Hum after Joshua Tree. But despite its problems, Rattle and Hum is still my favorite. I wouldn't say that Zenyatta Mondatta is my favorite, but I still give it plenty of spins.
-Andy
(Don't you love the quotes in the Message in a Box? They didn't hesitate to display the animosity of their breakup.)
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Feb 04 '05 9:19 am PST
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