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Re: Somehow, I am really not surprised, (Reply to this comment)
by metalluk
Not to be picky, but Caligula was directed by Tinto Brass. Salo was directed by Pier Paolo Pasolini. Both films certainly do include some disturbing scenes.
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Feb 03 '05
7:04 pm PST
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Somehow, I am really not surprised, (Reply to this comment)
by telynor,  in Movies
that the director of Caligula also did this film. After reading the description, I suspect that I won't sit and watch this one either (Caligula was bad enough). Thank you very much for an excellent piece of writing, and for the warning up front. -- Telynor
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Feb 03 '05
6:28 pm PST
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Re: Ewwwwwwwww (Reply to this comment)
by metalluk
Thanks to all for your comments!!
Jan, DavidMac, and beckytcy,
Yes, it is hard to sit through and I don't say that everyone should. People like yourselves can derive your commitment to opposing brutal acts by governments or sadistic individuals without having to expose yourself to the ugly side of humanity. I guess I was only saying that lack of public discussion of the horrors that are going on in the name of exporting freedom is part of what allows it to continue. Each of us has to decide for ourselves how much our nervous systems can tolerate in the way of awareness of the ugly sides of human activities.
Trust,
Although Salo is unpleasant, I didn't find it to be the most difficult ever. For me, that title would go to Papillon (1973), which upset me for a couple of weeks after I saw it in a theater. I have avoided seeing Gibson's Passsion, partly because I read a lot about it's sadistic quality and partly because I had already seen Gibson's obsession with torture in Braveheart (which, however, was otherwise a good film).
Psychovant,
Thanks for the supportive comments. I do plan to hang around for a while and it's people like you (and many others in the movie group) that make it worthwhile.
Chad,
I know what you mean. I would react the same way. Perhaps including the warning is counter-effective, but at least it gives people a choice as to whether to read on or not.
Phungus,
Yes, I wanted to highlight the parallels.
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Feb 03 '05
3:28 pm PST
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Ewwwwwwwww (Reply to this comment)
by beckytcy
Yikes! Not sure I could watch that!!
I like the political discussion near the end there.
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Feb 03 '05
12:13 pm PST
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by DavidMac
If I weren't so infamously intimidated by anything which could be remotely disturbing, I'm sure I would watch this -- I've read enough on this film to know what's in it and what the whole point of it is, but I somehow can't imagine me sitting down to watch this. I'm sure it would mess me up for life! I'm messed up enough as it is! Oh well, maybe someday.....
David
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Feb 02 '05
5:37 pm PST
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Geeez (Reply to this comment)
by chad8246
After your warning, I couldn't not read this!!
-Chad
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Feb 02 '05
12:27 pm PST
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by Psychovant
...damn, you did a wicked brilliant piece of writing on this film. This is one of many films I find myself wanting to tell people they must see -- only to realize moments later that most people don't (won't) take the time out to dissect what they are watching on the screen in an attempt to see the bigger picture. And yes, I'll allow that many folks simply can't wrap their minds around certain things.
You have been one of the best additions to the movie category here at Epinions over the last few years and this review is a perfect example of why. Thanks for hanging around. :)
Shannon ...
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Feb 02 '05
9:49 am PST
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Re: ! (Reply to this comment)
by trust12345
Jan- "Man, don't care to see this, would rather watch Quills..."
Quills is a terrible movie, not remotely because of its subject matter; just a cheese-fest. Salo at least has integrity, of a kind.
Metallunk ('n' provided free of charge)-
You make some excellent points about the film vs. real world public and lesser known acts of sadism and torture, and the general passivity of viewers... I suppose when anyone, such as Pasolini, embarks on such a work of fiction, there will be accusations of a deranged and sick mind at play, and less willingness to view the images in light of an overarching aesthetic or political conceit. Frankly, I found Salo "easier" to watch than Gibson's "The Passion of the Chirst" which lingers on the sadistic practices and glee of the Roman guards (et al) far more than any grace of the subject of torture. That, and the music in PotC is perfectly maudlin and dreadful.
-John
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Feb 02 '05
9:10 am PST
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Disgusting (Reply to this comment)
by phungus
What you described here reminded me of what went on at the Abu Ghirab prison.
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Feb 02 '05
7:20 am PST
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Re: Whew! (Reply to this comment)
by metalluk
Kinda makes one want to double-up on the Prozac!
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Feb 02 '05
6:09 am PST
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! (Reply to this comment)
by jankp
Stunning review, well worth your effort. I knew from the moment I saw Bush sneer when talking about the death penalty on Oprah that he was no Christian or a good influence. Man, don't care to see this, would rather watch Quills, but am very glad I read it.
Jan
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Feb 01 '05
11:31 pm PST
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Whew! (Reply to this comment)
by Stephen_Murray, in Movies
"Battle of Algiers" and "Salo" in two days?!
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Feb 01 '05
9:15 pm PST
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